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Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Непрочетено мнение от Blue Marble » ср окт 10, 2007 9:54 pm

И американците явно имат проблеми със сроковете:

Dreamliner hit by six-month delay

Днес акциите на BOEING CO не са в най-доброто си здраве:

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Непрочетено мнение от Сашо » ср окт 10, 2007 11:53 pm

Определено интересно. Първи полет за 787 -ноември 2007 г. (оригинално ланирано - септември 2007). Да видим дали ще спазят и този срок. Ако го направят - имат шанс да продължат нормално с първа доставка за май (ако не се лъжа) 2008. Ако ли не - поредно изпълнение тип А380.

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Непрочетено мнение от Blue Marble » чет окт 11, 2007 12:06 am

По CNN го коментираха, за съжаление не го хванах цялото. Ще бъдат засегнати 15 (или 50) клиенти. Не успях да го чуя добре fifteen ли каза или fifty.

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Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » съб окт 13, 2007 4:26 pm

Оригинално първи полет на 787 - август-септември 2007 г. До оня ден прозореца беше 15 ноември - 15 декември 2007.
Сега се целят в "first quarter 2008", което си е забавяне с половин година. Първите доставки за ANA - ноември - декември 2008 г.
За сега нищо страшно, доста хора очакваха, че тия ултра амбициозни срокове няма да бъдат спазени от Вoeing.
Ако си спомним за А380 и той имаше един свръх амбициозен срок за доставка. Първи полет 27 април 2005 г., първа доставка второто четиримесичие на 2006 (тоест между май и август). Реалностите ги знаме - закъснение от година и половина.

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Непрочетено мнение от eagle1 » чет окт 18, 2007 10:18 am

И тях май ги затресе болестта на конкурента А380 :roll:

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Непрочетено мнение от harrier » чет окт 18, 2007 8:27 pm

Началото винаги е трудно, примери бол - MD11, Fokker 70, A300.

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Това малко на автоконвейр прилича.Доста авангардно изглежда,ако наистина тъй ще се сглобява http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rebIfwh ... ed&search=

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Непрочетено мнение от Blue Marble » вт окт 30, 2007 5:28 pm

Northwest Airlines ще се поздравят с "787"- ци най-рано през първото тримесечие на 2009г.

Northwest eyes 787 delivery in 1Q 2009

Явно пътуващите по дестинацията Detroit-Shanghai ще трябва да почакат още половин година, за да ползват въглеродното творение на Бойнг.

ПП Интересна мисъл ми мина през главата- основен градивен елемент при самолетите, в бъдеще, май ще е същият като при хората- въглеродните атоми. Дали Вселената не е карбо-шовинистична, а?

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Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » пон ное 12, 2007 7:37 pm

Qatar Airways orders 60 Boeing 787-8 Dreamliners and 32 Boeing 777s
(Source: Qatar Airways; issued Nov. 11, 2007)

Qatar Airways today announced an order for 30 firm and 30 option Boeing 787-8 Dreamliners, together with confirmed orders for 27 Boeing 777s and an additional five options.

Details of the order were unveiled during a press conference at the Dubai Air Show attended by senior executives of both companies together with GE Aviation, which will supply engines for the aircraft.

Addressing media in Dubai this afternoon, Qatar Airways Chief Executive Officer Akbar Al Baker said: “We are proud to join the growing list of Boeing 787 customers. With deliveries from mid-2010 through to 2014, the 787 will form the core of Qatar Airways regional and medium-haul fleet from the next decade and its optimum size and outstanding fuel efficiency and economics will underpin the airline’s profitability and competitiveness as it builds its hub at Doha's new international airport.”

Al Baker said the decision to opt for the Boeing 787 was taken following a detailed analysis of the airline's future aircraft needs over a period of three years, including significant inputs to the 787's original definition and specification. The Boeing 787 order is for the 787-8 version with options to convert to the 787-9 variant.

“Later this month, Qatar Airways takes delivery of the first of its 27 firm Boeing 777s, which signals our first move to induct Boeing aircraft into our fleet,” he said.

Qatar Airways has confirmed orders for 14 777-300ERs, 6 777-200LRs and 7 777-200Fs, with deliveries beginning later this month and running until mid-2010. The two passenger 777 variants will facilitate a major expansion in the airline's long haul passenger network. The 777-200 freighters, which will be delivered from 2009, provide outstanding economics enabling Qatar Airways to build up an efficient cargo hub linking Europe and Asia, supplemented by its regional widebody freighters and belly capacity.

Added Al Baker: “I am pleased to say that the Boeing 787s and 777s will strengthen our partnership with Boeing for years to come. Our passenger fleet is among the youngest and eco-friendly in the world with a projected average age of just over three years by next year.”

The aggregate value of the 30 Boeing 787s and 27 Boeing 777 firm aircraft is estimated at US$13.5 billion at catalogue prices.

All of the aircraft acquired by Qatar Airways from Boeing will be equipped with General Electric engines. Al Baker added: “The choice of the GEnx and GE90 powerplants to power the airline's new Boeings will further cement the excellent working relationship already established with General Electric on its CF6 programme.”

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Re: Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » пет мар 21, 2008 8:52 am

Boeing е гол!
Очаква се още едно шестмесечно забавяне при програмата 787. Първият полет няма да се състои през май-юни 2008 г., а към есента. Оказва се също, че не се касае само до производствени проблеми, но и ще се наложи преконстроиране на центроплана на 787.

Key 787 Customer: Wing Has Design Problems
Mar 19, 2008


By Joseph C. Anselmo and Michael Mecham
The largest customer for Boeing's 787 is predicting another six-month slip in deliveries and has for the first time raised the specter that the new passenger jet's troubles extend beyond production delays to design problems.

International Lease Finance Corp. (ILFC) Chairman Steven Udvar-Hazy told a JPMorgan investor conference that structural design changes have to be made to the 787's center wing box, a move that would require retrofits of the first two flight-test airplanes that are being produced. Calling the state of the program "not pretty," Udvar-Hazy said he doesn't see the 787 making its first flight until this fall and predicts another year will be needed after that for certification. That means the first 787 delivery, to Japan's All Nippon Airways, would be pushed back until the third quarter of 2009, about a year and a half behind the original date of May 2008.

Boeing's last public forecast envisioned the 787 entering commercial service in early 2009, though the company has said it would update that estimate in April after a detailed review of program milestones is completed. Boeing officials had repeatedly stressed that the 787 program's multiple delays were due to problems with suppliers and not design flaws, as was the case with Airbus' much-delayed A380 transport.

A Boeing spokeswoman for the 787 program, in an emailed response to a query, declined to discuss the wing box or program schedule until the ongoing program review is complete. "While we respect Udvar-Hazy and he is a valued customer, he was sharing what is his opinion," she wrote.

Udvar-Hazy's comments to investors, made Monday, were reported in a research note by JPMorgan analyst Joseph B. Nadol, 3d. The ILFC chief also sees major challenges for the much-anticipated 787-10 stretched version of the jet. He believes that variant would require a new center section, a wing redesign, higher-thrust engines and new landing gear.


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Re: Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » нед мар 23, 2008 2:45 pm

Boeing си признават, че е трябвало да преконструират центроплана на 787, но това било част от нормалният процес на усъвършенстване на машината. Всичко вървяло по график и нито дума за закъснения. Ще видим де.

Boeing Statement on 787 Center Wing Box
(Source: Boeing Co.; issued March 20, 2008)

EVERETT, Wash. --- It is a normal part of the development of a new airplane to discover need for improvements, and that is what we are experiencing on the 787. The robust test process in place on the 787 program has confirmed the majority of our designs but we have found the need for some improvements.

The center wing box issue has been addressed. The fix is being installed on Airplanes 1-6 in the Everett factory. Installations have begun on the four airplanes currently in Final Assembly. All airplanes after Airplane 7 will have the solution incorporated from the beginning.

The fundamental technologies being used on the 787 are proving to be reliable and effective. The material choices and manufacturing techniques for the airplane are sound.

Boeing is working its normal processes for developing a new airplane. The test process is working when issues are discovered and we are reacting appropriately by implementing normal design validation and fixes when we find issues.
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Re: Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » чет апр 10, 2008 9:12 pm

Boeing си признаха всичко.
Първия полет се измества за последната четвърт (октомври, ноември или декември) на 2008 г.

Boeing Revises 787 First Flight and Delivery Plans; Adds Schedule Margin to Reduce Risk of Further Delays

* First flight moved into fourth-quarter 2008; deliveries to begin third-quarter 2009
* Production plan now targets approximately 25 787 deliveries in 2009
* Company expresses confidence in plans; will work closely with customers to minimize disruption
* No change to 2008 earnings guidance; strong 2009 EPS growth still expected


EVERETT, Wash., April 09, 2008 -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] today announced a revised plan for first flight and initial deliveries of the 787 Dreamliner that includes additional schedule margin to reduce risk of further delays on the program.

While significant progress has been made assembling Airplane #1, first flight is being rescheduled due to slower than expected completion of work that traveled from supplier facilities into Boeing's final assembly line, unanticipated rework, and the addition of margin into the testing schedule. The new delivery schedule is based on a more conservative production plan developed with the 787 partner team. That schedule now targets approximately 25 deliveries in 2009.

First flight of the all-new airplane will move into the fourth quarter of this year rather than the end of the second quarter, and first delivery is now planned for the third quarter of 2009 instead of first quarter.

Company officials expressed confidence in the new plan and the steps being taken to accelerate program performance.

"Over the past few months, we have taken strong actions to confront and overcome start-up issues on the program, and we have made solid progress," said Boeing Commercial Airplanes President and CEO Scott Carson. "Nevertheless, the traveled work situation and some unanticipated rework have prevented us from hitting the milestones we laid out in January. Our revised schedule is built upon an achievable, high-confidence plan for getting us to our power-on and first-flight milestones. Also, while the fundamental technologies and design of the 787 remain sound, we have inserted some additional schedule margin for dealing with other issues we may uncover in testing prior to first flight and in the flight test program."
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Re: Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » нед авг 10, 2008 2:58 pm

Първата анулирана поръчка за 787. Не е като да не се очакваше.

Boeing sees first 787 cancellation, lags Airbus
Thu Aug 7, 2008 1:35pm EDT



NEW YORK, Aug 7 (Reuters) - Boeing Co (BA.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) has announced the first cancellation of an order for its delayed 787 Dreamliner, signaling that airlines may be getting impatient for deliveries of the new, fuel efficient plane.

The U.S. aircraft maker, which updated its online order book on Thursday, also lags rival Airbus in the race for orders this year, as the flow of plane sales appears to have leveled off after three boom years.

In a joint statement on Thursday, Boeing and Azerbaijan Airlines said they had finalized an order for two single-aisle 737s and two twin-aisle, extended range 767s, worth about $450 million at list prices.

One of the 767s replaces one of the three 787s that Azerbaijan had ordered in February last year. The cancellation of one of the 787 orders is the first for Boeing's new plane, which has been delayed three times by problems with unfinished work from suppliers and shortages of some key parts.

The plane is now set for its first test flight in the fourth quarter and first delivery in the third quarter of 2009, about 15 months behind the original schedule.

Some airlines will now have to wait more than two years longer than originally expected for 787 deliveries, but Azerbaijan is the first to cancel an order.

"We look forward to operating the 787 and benefiting from its advanced performance features," said Jahangir Askerov, president of Azerbaijan Airlines, in a statement. "However, the 767-300ER is the economical and logical choice to fulfill our interim capacity targets."

Boeing's 787 was designed to supersede the 767, which was one of Boeing's best-sellers throughout the 1990s. The older plane has seen a resurgence of interest from airlines, especially in its freight version, as both Boeing and Airbus take longer than expected to introduce their new ranges of mid-sized planes.

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Re: Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » съб ное 08, 2008 12:08 am

Поредното отлагане (четвърто или пето)!
Първия полет няма да се състои през тази година поради двумесечната стачка в Boeing.

Boeing Postpones Test Flight of the 787
By MICHELINE MAYNARD
Published: November 4, 2008


The Boeing Company said Tuesday that its new long-range airplane, the 787, would not make its first test flight this year because of delays caused by a machinists’ strike.

The setback is the latest in the development of the plane, nicknamed the Dreamliner, which is Boeing’s first major new aircraft in more than a decade. Boeing has 903 orders for the 787, whose first customer is All Nippon Airlines of Japan
И т.н и т.н....
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Re: Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » съб дек 06, 2008 10:59 pm

Очаква се скоро Boeing официално да обяви, ново шестмесечно закъснение по програмата. Тоест доставката на първите серийни машини се отлага за 2010 г.
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Re: Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Непрочетено мнение от Moss » пет дек 12, 2008 12:52 pm

Очаква се скоро Boeing официално да обяви,...
Компанията Boeing официално обяви...
Boeing Schedules 787 Dreamliner First Flight for Second Quarter 2009; First Delivery for First Quarter 2010
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/200 ... 1a_nr.html

Тъй както я карат, може и други работи да започнат да обявяват. Примерно, че твърдите поръчки намаляват. И че компанията иска защита от кредиторите си.
Мда.

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Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » вт фев 03, 2009 2:05 am

Най-накрая възобновяват производството на 787.

Production Resumes on Boeing 787 Dreamliners with Fifth Flight-Test Airplane
(Source: Boeing Co.; issued January 30, 2009)


EVERETT, Wash. --- Production of Boeing 787 Dreamliners resumed yesterday with the join of the fifth airplane designated for flight test.

This airplane, designated ZA005, is the first to be powered with General Electric GEnx engines. The major assemblies were loaded in final body join over the past several days. The fuselage and wing joins occur simultaneously.

"This airplane signifies our return to a steady production rhythm," said Jack Jones, vice president of 787 Final Assembly and Change Incorporation.

"Sections are arriving in Everett at the completion levels committed by our partners and close to what is expected for mature production," Jones said. "The substantial progress made by our partners streamlines the assembly process, which is essential as we ramp up production."

Five of the six airplanes designated for flight test are now in varying stages of production. Power was restored earlier this week to the first flight-test airplane, ZA001, and production testing has resumed as the airplane prepares for first flight in the second quarter. Rolls-Royce engines are hung on ZA002, in the fourth and final production position in the factory. The third and fourth flight-test airplanes, ZA003 and ZA004, are in the third and second production positions, respectively.

Fastener rework is done on ZA001, nearly complete on ZA002 and progressing well on the third and fourth airplanes, Jones said. "We have applied the resources necessary to complete all the outstanding work on these airplanes and keep the production line moving forward."

Assemblies for the final flight-test airplane, ZA006, are in production at partner sites worldwide. In all, assemblies for 30 Dreamliners are in production at this time.

The 787 Dreamliner has orders for 895 airplanes from 58 airlines.

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Re: Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » пет юни 26, 2009 12:25 am

Поредното, шесто или седмо, отлагане.
Този път трябва да се усилва центроплана. Първия полет се отлага за неопределено време.

Boeing Postpones 787 First Flight
(Source: Boeing Co.; issued June 23, 2009)


EVERETT, Wash. --- Boeing today announced that first flight of the 787 Dreamliner will be postponed due to a need to reinforce an area within the side-of-body section of the aircraft.

The need was identified during the recent regularly scheduled tests on the full-scale static test airplane. Preliminary analysis indicated that flight test could proceed this month as planned. However, after further testing and consideration of possible modified flight test plans, the decision was made late last week that first flight should instead be postponed until productive flight testing could occur.


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The second of six Boeing 787s earmarked for the aircraft’s flight-test program, which has again been postponed, this time for at least several weeks. (Boeing photo)

First flight and first delivery will be rescheduled following the final determination of the required modification and testing plan. It will be several weeks before the new schedule is available. The 787 team will continue with other aspects of testing on Airplane #1, including final gauntlet testing and low-speed taxiing. Work will also continue on the other five flight test aircraft and the subsequent aircraft in the production system.

Scott Carson, president and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes said a team of experts has already identified several potential solutions.

"Consideration was given to a temporary solution that would allow us to fly as scheduled, but we ultimately concluded that the right thing was to develop, design, test and incorporate a permanent modification to the localized area requiring reinforcement. Structural modifications like these are not uncommon in the development of new airplanes, and this is not an issue related to our choice of materials or the assembly and installation work of our team," Carson said.

Boeing's financial guidance will be updated to reflect any impact of these changes when the company issues its second quarter 2009 earnings report in July.

Boeing will hold a conference call with Carson, Pat Shanahan, vice president and general manager of Airplane Programs, and Scott Fancher, vice president and general manager of the 787 program, to discuss the 787 program today at 10:00 a.m. EDT, 7:00 a.m., PDT.

A webcast of that call will be accessible (until June 29) at http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix

(EDITOR’S NOTE: During the conference call, it gradually emerged that Boeing has identified 36 spots, each measuring 1 or 2 square inches and spread all along the wing-fuselage join, that require reinforcement. This “is a complex area…with multiple materials…including titanium, aluminium and composites,” Boeing officials said.
The faulty parts were designed and produced by Boeing itself and by its Japanese partners, Fuji and Mitsubishi, and will require titanium or aluminium reinforcements.
Also, while Boeing officials said the issue is “one that can be readily resolved,” and does not prevent the aircraft from flying, they said it will take several weeks just to determine how much work is required, and then to set a new date for the first flight, which suggests things may not be as simple as claimed.)

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Re: Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Непрочетено мнение от Грозев » пет юни 26, 2009 11:44 pm

Австралийците от Qantas отказват 15 от общо 65-те си поръчани Boeing 787.

Qantas Announces Changes to B787 Orders
(Source: Qantas; issued June 26, 2009)


SYDNEY --- Qantas announced today it had reached mutual agreement with Boeing to defer the delivery of 15 B787-8 aircraft by four years and cancel orders for 15 B787-9s scheduled for delivery in 2014/2015.

Qantas Chief Executive Officer, Mr Alan Joyce, said the changes to the Group's B787 orders were appropriate in the current climate, and that discussions with Boeing, which commenced some months ago, had not been influenced by the announcement this week of a design issue and further delay to the aircraft's first flight.

"Qantas announced its original B787 order in December 2005, and the operating environment for the world's airlines has clearly changed dramatically since then," Mr Joyce said.

"The agreement we have reached with Boeing will provide greater certainty going forward in terms of our fleet renewal and growth strategies as well as broader resource planning and matching capacity with demand.

"It will also allow Qantas to manage capital investment more effectively while still delivering an aircraft that offers sound prospects for our flying businesses and our customers.

"For both Qantas and Jetstar, the B787 will provide for international capacity growth and new routes, including point-to-point destinations, and mean lower operating and maintenance costs, greater fuel efficiency and improved environmental performance.

"The latest delay is disappointing, but we do not expect it to impact the Qantas Group given these changes to our delivery program. We remain committed to the aircraft as the right choice - for Jetstar's future international expansion, Qantas' growth and as a replacement for Qantas' B767-300 fleet."

After the order changes, the Qantas Group will jointly remain the biggest airline customer for B787 family aircraft.

The changes will see (based on current Boeing planning guidance and may be subject to change):

-- Qantas Group firm orders reduce from 65 to 50 aircraft, comprising 35 B787-9s and 15 B787-8s;

-- the Group's first 15 aircraft - B787-9s for Jetstar's international operations - delivered from mid-2013, around three years later than planned. Jetstar was to take delivery of 15 smaller B787-8s in mid-2010;

--15 B787-8s follow over the 12 months from the fourth quarter of 2014 for Qantas' Australian domestic operations and to retire the remaining Qantas B767-300 fleet;

-- remaining deliveries, of 20 B787-9s for both Qantas and Jetstar international operations, take place from the fourth quarter of 2015 through to 2017; and

-- Qantas retain the ability to purchase up to 50 additional aircraft.

Mr Joyce said the cancellation of 15 B787-9s would reduce the Group's aircraft capital expenditure by US$3 billion based on current list prices.

"Delaying delivery, and reducing overall B787 capacity, is prudent, while still enabling Qantas and Jetstar to take advantage of growth opportunities and market demands, both domestically and internationally," he said.

Details of the contractual agreement with Boeing remain confidential, but the settlement is materially in line with that previously recognised.

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